Comments on: Star Trek Plot Holes and Issues

By: lee66132000

lee66132000 — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 00:22:33 +0000

Could someone please explain how a cadet in his third year ended up as first officer of Starfleet's new flagship and later captain? And Kirk didn't even save Earth. Spock did. Kirk reminded Pike of what happened around the time of his birth and later, saved Pike (with the latter's assistance). And when Kirk argued with Spock on the bridge, why didn't Spock simply remove Kirk's temporary position of First Officer and have his ass tossed into the bridge?

By: Donal

Donal — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 15:48:54 +0000

agree with that, it was painfully boring. BSG shows what you can do with some original storytelling, stop looking to the past star trek writers.

By: Darkguardian1314

Darkguardian1314 — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:54:49 +0000

I agree. How many times did we see Enterprise leaving space dock to save Earth under less than idea circumstances. Leaving space dock is like rebooting the movie each time and you begin to wander if the Enterprise ever leaves Earth except when it's movie time.

By: Darkguardian1314

Darkguardian1314 — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:51:14 +0000

But not the movie. Media books and deleted scenes are not considered canon. The movie should tell the whole story within the confines of the movie. Many deleted scenes have alternated endings that for one reason or another was removed. The scene was shot and exist but not used. We can make up any reason we like to fit the facts hence the countless debates online. It's best to say Abrams didn't tell the whole story in the movie as entertaining as it is.

By: Darkguardian1314

Darkguardian1314 — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:39:40 +0000

One thing bothers me was how Kirk, a cadet who hasn't been deployed in space before, ends up as Captain of the Enterprise at the end of the movie. Yeah, he saved the planet but he had help. The movie gives the impression that Starfleet are full of cadets with few senior staff. I don't car for Kirk's arrogance in this movie especially during the Maru Test. This is today's generation Star Trek but not mines.

By: Janal

Janal — Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:34:51 +0000

Fiction or not, the science in Star Trek is based on fact. This Star Trek is not. The Black Hole you speak of is not really a black hole, it is a mimicking gravitational mock-up. It MIMICS the bending and consumption of light, and worked slowly and in some cases poorly.

The Black Hole in the movie (Star Trek 2009), is massive, large and once the warp core is ejected, guess what? Nothing is stopping the enterprise from being sucked in instantaneously into the black hole with the warp cores.

This is not a hard concept to get.

By: Mark

Mark — Mon, 22 Aug 2011 00:41:46 +0000

Just watched it on Netflix. Sure it has lots of plot let-downs. Some so oddly large in fact you could drive a truck through them. I've been around the web reading some of the trekkies, (and treckkers evidentially since the documentary) go all “geek raging” over the time travel stuff. Funny as hell, but this guy here on this blog made me laugh out loud with his practicality based statements like number one.
I get what Abrams is trying to do with getting rid of the old, incredibly bloated history of the movies, T.V. shows etc.,but the one thing that chipped me off was his getting rid of the Vulcans. I always liked them. I thought they were a good mirror for the human characters. You never know, perhaps the next film will be about having to put the universe right again.
As I watched it I thought a better premise might be that the movie opens with the universe already in disarray because of all this. (Wasn't it Star Trek that had an evil alternate universe with Spock in a goatee or something? I think I remember that… I don't know, I'm neither a trekkie or a trekker.) Anyway, We're shown a universe that makes all the die-hards squirm in their seats, but the final scene has the team on the bridge in nice shiny uniforms with everything all right in the universe once again to ride off into the proverbial sunset. If the old guard got more of what they wanted, they might have forgiven the factual, ( theoretical I guess in terms of time travel) stuff a bit more.
P.S. I thought it was hilarious that Kirk's fighting style is to get his ass handed to him by basically everyone.

By: Poi7

Poi7 — Mon, 06 Jun 2011 22:19:46 +0000

Your 6th point complete negates your whole critique. Alternate Universe from the day the Romulans appeared on the other side of the wormhole. That's that.

By: MireyaAyala

MireyaAyala — Sun, 29 May 2011 03:15:51 +0000

Just FYI: It wasn't a full scale black hole. It was a small scale black hole created by the release of fictional “red matter.”

Even smaller scale black holes can be created in labs here on Earth (such as with the Large Hadron Collider). So, theoretically, a warp core (which doesn't exist) might be able to have quite an impact on a small scale black hole created by red matter (which also doesn't exist). After all, it is science FICTION.

By: Daycrist21

Daycrist21 — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 01:24:45 +0000

Number 4: It was a drink there are many other species so the name of the drink and the drink could have been transferred as such

Number 7: Yes when the Warp Core is Ejected it goes offline.....but there is still a channel of energy running through the Nacelles which does give some time....not alot since they were at high warp but some

Number 10: When the Federation was formed all the races that joined dismantled their own fleets and put resources and technology towards Starfleet to enhance and build their ships.

Number 14: I'm not so sure about your explaination here as even the officers on the Kelvin where stating that it was like they didn't even have any Shields up

Number 15: Why Spock gave them technology well beyond their scope who knows....but I would like to point out that even in TNG they state That Doing Transport during warp is unsafe and mostly They do it before they go to warp and as Undiscovered Country pointed out there is still a Range limit....